{"id":56765,"date":"2025-10-21T00:18:22","date_gmt":"2025-10-20T18:48:22","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/officechai.com\/?p=56765"},"modified":"2025-10-21T00:18:24","modified_gmt":"2025-10-20T18:48:24","slug":"chatgpt-gemini-meta-claude-all-pick-27-when-asked-to-choose-a-random-number-between-1-and-50","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/officechai.com\/ai\/chatgpt-gemini-meta-claude-all-pick-27-when-asked-to-choose-a-random-number-between-1-and-50\/","title":{"rendered":"ChatGPT, Gemini, Meta &amp; Claude All Pick 27 When Asked To Choose A Random Number Between 1 And 50"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>The foundational LLMs from the top labs are slowly converging on quality, but they&#8217;re also converging in some unexpected ways.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>ChatGPT, Gemini, Meta and Claude all seem to pick the number 27 when asked to choose a number between 1 and 50. We at OfficeChai tried this out, and incredibly, the four LLMs all choose the same random number of 27. For context, if the numbers chosen were truly random, the probability of this happening is (1\/50)^4, or 0.00000016.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We presented the four LLMs with the same prompt: &#8220;choose a number between 1 and 50&#8221;. ChatGPT quickly replied, &#8220;Okay &#8212; I choose 27&#8221;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"191\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/officechai.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/WhatsApp-Image-2025-10-20-at-01.37.38-1024x306.jpeg?resize=640%2C191&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-56776\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/officechai.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/WhatsApp-Image-2025-10-20-at-01.37.38.jpeg?resize=1024%2C306&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/officechai.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/WhatsApp-Image-2025-10-20-at-01.37.38.jpeg?resize=300%2C90&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/officechai.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/WhatsApp-Image-2025-10-20-at-01.37.38.jpeg?resize=768%2C229&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/officechai.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/WhatsApp-Image-2025-10-20-at-01.37.38.jpeg?w=1322&amp;ssl=1 1322w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Gemini 2.5 Pro thought for a while, but replied succinctly with 27.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"196\" data-src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/officechai.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/WhatsApp-Image-2025-10-20-at-01.38.37-1024x314.jpeg?resize=640%2C196&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-56777 lazyload\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/officechai.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/WhatsApp-Image-2025-10-20-at-01.38.37.jpeg?resize=1024%2C314&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/officechai.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/WhatsApp-Image-2025-10-20-at-01.38.37.jpeg?resize=300%2C92&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/officechai.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/WhatsApp-Image-2025-10-20-at-01.38.37.jpeg?resize=768%2C235&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/officechai.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/WhatsApp-Image-2025-10-20-at-01.38.37.jpeg?w=1263&amp;ssl=1 1263w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 640px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 640\/196;\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Claude too chose 27.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"180\" data-src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/officechai.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/WhatsApp-Image-2025-10-20-at-01.38.06.jpeg?resize=640%2C180&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-56778 lazyload\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/officechai.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/WhatsApp-Image-2025-10-20-at-01.38.06.jpeg?w=945&amp;ssl=1 945w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/officechai.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/WhatsApp-Image-2025-10-20-at-01.38.06.jpeg?resize=300%2C84&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/officechai.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/WhatsApp-Image-2025-10-20-at-01.38.06.jpeg?resize=768%2C216&amp;ssl=1 768w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 640px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 640\/180;\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Meta asked a follow up question about the significance of the number, but it picked 27 too.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"434\" data-src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/officechai.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/WhatsApp-Image-2025-10-20-at-01.40.09-1024x694.jpeg?resize=640%2C434&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-56779 lazyload\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/officechai.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/WhatsApp-Image-2025-10-20-at-01.40.09.jpeg?resize=1024%2C694&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/officechai.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/WhatsApp-Image-2025-10-20-at-01.40.09.jpeg?resize=300%2C203&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/officechai.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/WhatsApp-Image-2025-10-20-at-01.40.09.jpeg?resize=768%2C521&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/officechai.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/WhatsApp-Image-2025-10-20-at-01.40.09.jpeg?w=1220&amp;ssl=1 1220w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 640px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 640\/434;\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Now it&#8217;s not immediately clearly why these four foundational LLMs from four different companies &#8212; which are developed independently from each other &#8212; all choose the exact same number when asked to guess a random number between 1 and 50. For starters, generating random numbers is quite tricky. Random numbers in computing are generated\u00a0using two main types of generators: pseudo-random number generators (PRNGs) and true random number generators (TRNGs).\u00a0PRNGs use mathematical algorithms and an initial &#8220;seed&#8221; value to produce a sequence of numbers that appear random but are deterministic and repeatable.\u00a0TRNGs use physical processes like atmospheric noise, radioactive decay, or thermal conditions to generate numbers that are truly unpredictable and non-deterministic. There are some famous examples of random number generation as well, such as CloudFlare, which uses these Lava Lamps in its office to generate truly random numbers.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" data-src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/officechai.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/image-8-1024x576.png?resize=640%2C360&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-56780 lazyload\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/officechai.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/image-8.png?resize=1024%2C576&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/officechai.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/image-8.png?resize=300%2C169&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/officechai.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/image-8.png?resize=768%2C432&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/officechai.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/image-8.png?resize=1536%2C864&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/officechai.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/image-8.png?w=2048&amp;ssl=1 2048w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/officechai.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/image-8.png?w=1280 1280w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/officechai.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/image-8.png?w=1920 1920w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 640px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 640\/360;\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>LLMs are famously bad at math &#8212; for the longest time, they struggled to tell which of two numbers was greater than the other. They also largely operate on predicting the next word, so it&#8217;s unlikely they can generate truly random numbers. But it could be interesting to find out what causes different foundational LLMs to all answer with 27 when asked to pick a random number between 1 and 50. It&#8217;s possible that this number occurs frequently in some part of the internet that these LLMs were trained or, or there could be other reasons. But this convergence shows that <a href=\"https:\/\/officechai.com\/ai\/anthropic-says-its-able-to-isolate-personality-vectors-in-ai-models-that-determine-behaviours-like-sycophancy\/\">interpretability<\/a>, or the understanding of how LLMs really work, could be an important new field to pursue as LLMs get deployed more and more across varied fields in the coming years. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The foundational LLMs from the top labs are slowly converging on quality, but they&#8217;re also converging in some unexpected ways. 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